Comments on: Where’s the Grant to Teach Journalists how to Code: Take II http://blog.digidave.org/2007/06/wheres-the-grant-to-teach-journalists-how-to-code-take-ii Journalism is a Process, Not a Product Mon, 30 Jan 2012 12:45:43 +0000 hourly 1 By: (J)journalist/(P)programmer | Megan Taylor: Web Journalist http://blog.digidave.org/2007/06/wheres-the-grant-to-teach-journalists-how-to-code-take-ii/comment-page-1#comment-1128 (J)journalist/(P)programmer | Megan Taylor: Web Journalist Sun, 26 Apr 2009 23:12:43 +0000 http://www.digidave.org/2007/06/wheres-the-grant-to-teach-journalists-how-to-code-take-ii.html#comment-1128 [...] David, clearly on the side of journalists learning to code, asks where the scholarships are to teach journalists to program, and points out that the hot players in geek journalism are journalists turned coders, not the [...] [...] David, clearly on the side of journalists learning to code, asks where the scholarships are to teach journalists to program, and points out that the hot players in geek journalism are journalists turned coders, not the [...]

]]> By: Anna Haynes http://blog.digidave.org/2007/06/wheres-the-grant-to-teach-journalists-how-to-code-take-ii/comment-page-1#comment-624 Anna Haynes Sat, 16 Jun 2007 01:37:00 +0000 http://www.digidave.org/2007/06/wheres-the-grant-to-teach-journalists-how-to-code-take-ii.html#comment-624 <p>> what if they all covered the affects of No Child Left Behind in their local, but they all agreed on what raw data they were going to try and uncover. ... It could be a joint effort: journalists and citizen journalists working together, each in their specific community/city to get the specific information</p> <p>You're a brilliant man, David.<br /> :-)</p> > what if they all covered the affects of No Child Left Behind in their local, but they all agreed on what raw data they were going to try and uncover. … It could be a joint effort: journalists and citizen journalists working together, each in their specific community/city to get the specific information

You’re a brilliant man, David.
:-)

]]> By: maria http://blog.digidave.org/2007/06/wheres-the-grant-to-teach-journalists-how-to-code-take-ii/comment-page-1#comment-623 maria Fri, 15 Jun 2007 17:54:00 +0000 http://www.digidave.org/2007/06/wheres-the-grant-to-teach-journalists-how-to-code-take-ii.html#comment-623 <p>Open source journalism -- what an awesome idea! I agree with your point that this would take a major change in some journalistic codes of conduct right now (scoop envy?), but this is exactly where those of us with even little bits of coding experience could definitely put our heads together and figure out how this might work. All the best with this concept -- it sounds like you're on the right track to realizing it.</p> Open source journalism — what an awesome idea! I agree with your point that this would take a major change in some journalistic codes of conduct right now (scoop envy?), but this is exactly where those of us with even little bits of coding experience could definitely put our heads together and figure out how this might work. All the best with this concept — it sounds like you’re on the right track to realizing it.

]]> By: Maurreen Skowran http://blog.digidave.org/2007/06/wheres-the-grant-to-teach-journalists-how-to-code-take-ii/comment-page-1#comment-622 Maurreen Skowran Thu, 07 Jun 2007 13:04:00 +0000 http://www.digidave.org/2007/06/wheres-the-grant-to-teach-journalists-how-to-code-take-ii.html#comment-622 <p>About No Child Left Behind specifically or a database generally ... something that is releveant both locally and nationally ...</p> <p>I think there is a lot of potential for this -- </p> <p>As far as "No Child," a trick to make it somewhat timeless, so it wouldn't matter as much if we don't time it right with the legislation -- focus on some aspect. Sorry, I can't think of anything more specific right now.</p> <p>But the Assignment Zero forum topic on "What else should we investigate?" had a number of potential good topics (from me and others).</p> <p>Off the top of my head, one example related to education:<br /> Do any schools or areas educate children better or worse than would be expected by socioeconomic factors?</p> About No Child Left Behind specifically or a database generally … something that is releveant both locally and nationally …

I think there is a lot of potential for this —

As far as “No Child,” a trick to make it somewhat timeless, so it wouldn’t matter as much if we don’t time it right with the legislation — focus on some aspect. Sorry, I can’t think of anything more specific right now.

But the Assignment Zero forum topic on “What else should we investigate?” had a number of potential good topics (from me and others).

Off the top of my head, one example related to education:
Do any schools or areas educate children better or worse than would be expected by socioeconomic factors?

]]> By: Maurreen Skowran http://blog.digidave.org/2007/06/wheres-the-grant-to-teach-journalists-how-to-code-take-ii/comment-page-1#comment-621 Maurreen Skowran Thu, 07 Jun 2007 05:29:00 +0000 http://www.digidave.org/2007/06/wheres-the-grant-to-teach-journalists-how-to-code-take-ii.html#comment-621 <p>Hi, David.</p> <p>I've thought for several years that the industry would be smart to have some people trained in both journalism and technology. </p> <p>Granted, a person may excel at one or the other, but whichever job a person focuses on, the other background can still help -- not just the individual, but more widely.</p> <p>Also, for better or worse, a number of newsrooms are demanding that journalists learn more and do more with technical production. In a way, reporters are now facing something similar to what many copy editors have had to do -- that is, wordsmiths, etc., being forced to design pages.</p> <p>But pushing people to be jacks of all trades does make them less likely to be master of any. </p> <p>I think it's good for people to learn different fields, but to be able to focus, to use those different fields when it's appropriate, which is not all the time. </p> <p>If a news organization that is large enough wants to add new elements regularly, it should generally strive to find someone who can excel at those new elements, instead of spreading people too thin or forcing round pegs into square holes.</p> <p>But maybe I've gone tangential.</p> Hi, David.

I’ve thought for several years that the industry would be smart to have some people trained in both journalism and technology.

Granted, a person may excel at one or the other, but whichever job a person focuses on, the other background can still help — not just the individual, but more widely.

Also, for better or worse, a number of newsrooms are demanding that journalists learn more and do more with technical production. In a way, reporters are now facing something similar to what many copy editors have had to do — that is, wordsmiths, etc., being forced to design pages.

But pushing people to be jacks of all trades does make them less likely to be master of any.

I think it’s good for people to learn different fields, but to be able to focus, to use those different fields when it’s appropriate, which is not all the time.

If a news organization that is large enough wants to add new elements regularly, it should generally strive to find someone who can excel at those new elements, instead of spreading people too thin or forcing round pegs into square holes.

But maybe I’ve gone tangential.

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